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Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

At 4:36 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Alex Blewitt DeveloperZone Top 100 wrote:

No sooner than I had posted a ' when is Eclipse 3.3M5 out ', it was released today :-)

Here are direct download links for the SDKs (yes, via mirrors Denis!) that you can click on or right-click to save it as a file. There's still naff HTML redirects in place at the Eclipse download site.



Get it whilst it's hot! New and noteworthy here...

Interesting items in the New and Noteworthy include

  • The ability for PDE to be able to host multiple versions of the same bundle in the workspace at one time
  • Access of multiple versions of bundles in the map file (as well as the previously discussed use of HTTP in the map file )
  • It supports the OSGi 4.1 draft (including the OSGi Bundle-ActivationPolicy: lazy , formerly known as Eclipse-LazyStart: true and Eclipse-AutoStart: true )
  • Many improvements to the Equinox launcher, which includes the ability for SWT items to appear in the splash screen and the use of JNI to launch the VM instead of external executable
  • Being able to drag-and-drop text segments (though a preference General > Editors > Text Editors > Enable drag and drop of text is needed to turn it on)
  • In-place rename refactorings without having to open up dialogs
  • Project-specific cleanup-on-save actions (including the 'sort all members' whoo-hoo!)
  • Auto-completion of static imports


And of course, many others including those previously announced in M4 , M3 , M2 and M1 in case you've not been perusing them.

I know that a lot of people have been asking for the drag-and-drop of text; whilst I personally don't use it (and others consider it to be dangerous) it's good that this is supported for those that want it -- it's been one of the more asked-for bug 11624 has been duplicated 25 times since Eclipse 2.0 almost 5 years ago (and with 72 votes, one of the most popular ones).

Eclipse 3.3 is shaping up to be a great release for anyone in the IDE, RCP or even OSGi space.
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1. At 5:33 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Genady Beryozkin Javalobby Regulars wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

Looks like most of the new features are oriented towards PDE/RCP development. Only few significant improvements for the regular user.
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2. At 5:39 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Genady Beryozkin Javalobby Regulars wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

Btw - is there anything new about an Eclipse installer?
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3. At 5:41 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Alex Blewitt DeveloperZone Top 100 wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

There may be a lot of things that contribute towards the PDE/RCP space, but these aren't the full set of the new and noteworthy features (and indeed, you have to combine everything from M1 to M5 to get a feeling of what's new over 3.2).

For example, the new Equinox launcher means that the app is dockable on Mac OS X, which is a great boon for the regular user -- at least, on Mac OS X systems. There are also lots of JDT-specific items -- the ability to drag and drop text is one of the things that will apply to *any* text file, not just Java or PDE-specific ones. That's been voted one of the highest number of times (perhaps only one or two behind the top-rated Mozilla/Firefox install, which now is also available on other systems but which i didn't bring out specifically above).

There's also a lot of UI improvements, such as context-assist in fields and the ability to print multiple help pages, and the ability to more easily install updates from an update site, that I didn't bring out.

The problem is, what does "regular user" mean to an open platform? And let's not forget -- the milestone releases are about enabling new functionality (as well as testing it) from a development-of-the-platform perspective so that when Eclipse 3.3 final hits, there's a lot more for the "regular user" to use ...

Alex.
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4. At 6:09 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Daniel Spiewak Javalobby Junkies wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

> Btw - is there anything new about an Eclipse
> installer?

No, nothing that I've heard of. I know that there's a project in place to consider the integration of Eclipse into various Linux distributions. While this could lead to the packaging of Eclipse as a DEB or an RPM, it's doubtful that Eclipse will ever be bundled as a bona fide installer on either Mac or Windows.
Daniel Spiewak
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5. At 6:11 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Daniel Spiewak Javalobby Junkies wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

Don't forget the port of SWT to WPF! This is IMHO one of the bigger new things coming for 3.3 (actually, I'm not sure what the exact schedule is, I'd have to dig around a bit). SWT running on WPF means that Eclipse (along with any other SWT-based application) will get a rather sizable performance "shot in the arm" on Vista. Not that you'll have a problem with Eclipse if you have a machine capable of running Vista in the first place, but every ms counts. :-)
Daniel Spiewak
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6. At 6:20 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Alex Blewitt DeveloperZone Top 100 wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

Yeah, I'd second that -- Eclipse has always been a drag-and-drop type install, rather than an installer you have to click through. This is a good thing though -- I tried to install Open Office on a Windows PC, and because it was in a Windows-installer package, I couldn't run it. I have no such problems unzipping an Eclipse install; and let's face it, they're both Java.

Whilst windows installers have their place, they're not necessarily great for all situations.

Alex.
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7. At 6:29 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Genady Beryozkin Javalobby Regulars wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

As to myself I don't mind using the ZIP file or an installer.
But I've seen some users who would really prefer using an installer, just for the sake of placing a shortcut on the desktop and relieving them from the need to choose the install location.
For new Java developers that come from the M$ world, unzipping an IDE is very unnatural.

I've had some positive experience using an NSIS based installer for an RCP app. I know that NSIS doesn't use EPL, but perhaps it can be relicensed.
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8. At 6:41 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Genady Beryozkin Javalobby Regulars wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

I actually looked at the New and Noteworthy doc (but my post concerns M5 only). I've seen all the items and I just don't feel I'll be using most of them as a Java developer (="regular user"). As you said, future releases will probably build on top of them.
The new refactoring window and the improved compare are nice additions though :)

[As a plug-in developers there are nice new features for me but most of them seem too advanced for me. Looks like they're good for large scale plug-ins/additions/rcp apps.]
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9. At 6:45 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Genady Beryozkin Javalobby Regulars wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

I really hope to see it working, but I don't have Vista and I don't want to install .NET3.0 on my XP, so I can't try it.
Using WPF means having two virtual machines running in the same process - the .NET CLR and the Java VM, each with it's own GC and "JIT". Of course there is no reason why they can't work together, but I'd expect many problems until WPF support is fully functional, as both of them probably preform some low level OS operations that can collide.
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10. At 7:22 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Chris Aniszczyk DeveloperZone Top 100 wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

Come on, how user friendly can get you get with the easy addition of cross-platform export of JREs for RCP products ;)?
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11. At 8:15 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Alex Blewitt DeveloperZone Top 100 wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

Yeah, but like he said above, he's not interested in PDE/RCP enhancements ... presumably, since he doesn't use that functionality in Eclipse.
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12. At 11:22 PM on Feb 10, 2007, Chris Aniszczyk DeveloperZone Top 100 wrote:

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Well, you can look at JDT, not PDE :) We aim to please ;)
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13. At 4:02 AM on Feb 11, 2007, Arik Kfir Occasional Javalobby Visitor wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

The only thing in Eclipse which is missing (from an IDEA user's perspective, that is) is IDEA's "Packages" view. This view shows the project's packages+classes tree, merging all available project roots. In Eclipse, the package tree (on the left pane) is more "file-based", which is, IMO, less convenient.

For example, if I have the following structure:
myProject
    src
       java
          myPackage
             MyClass
       test
          myPackage
             MyClassTest
       resources
          myPackage
             image.png
In IDEA, it can show you this tree (merged from these three source roots):
myPackage
   MyClass
   MyClassTest
   image.png
I have yet to find the equivalent in Eclipse. Is it there and I've simply missed it?
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14. At 4:15 AM on Feb 11, 2007, Genady Beryozkin Javalobby Regulars wrote:

Re: Eclipse 3.3M5 is out -- direct download links provided

There is the hierarchical layout in the package explorer.
(It's not exactly what you describe).
Why would you place files of the same package in different source folders?
Genady Beryozkin
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